Re: Emoria: World-Building OOC

[Guest]

One thing with what Dax said that must be remembered. Those who live in the mountains know the truth regardless, as they know their lord and master is still there.

Other than that, discuss.

[Kathryn Lacey]

The plural form of "Quendë" is actually "Quendi"... Because "Quendi" directly translates to mean "elves," it seems a little redundant to state that they were elves immediately after... Perhaps you should write, "...the Quendi of Taurë Arda..." instead the first time, then simply proceed to write "Quendi" after that.

You'll want to CTRL+F both "Quendë elves" and "Quendi elves" to find the places where you did the redundant thing... Of course, you could just CTRL+F elves, but you had it by itself once which is acceptable because that's their race in the Common Tongue.

I'm not going to do a serious proofread of this because I've already stepped down, but I'll bring to attention a couple things...

"As the Papus was doing this, the clouds from the sky seemed to have starting to converge towards Morgarath, making a sort of mini tornado with purple lightning sporadically going off inside."
Did you mean "to have started?"

"Screams where heard, an unearthly crack resonated and an evil laughter erupted once more."
Did you mean "Screams were heard..?"

[Guest]

As there seem to be no opinions on the world opinion, let's just go with number 4. That was the favored option originally anyway. Vatienne refuse to believe they failed to destroy Morgarath.

[Gadreille]

Had an emergency last night, was very ill. I need to catch up on the last two pages.

Attie, go ahead and add your character sheet to Emoria: Information, and we will link it to the character sheet post.

Edit: Dax, I like I mix of two and four. Perhaps everyone thought that he was dead, but now sees that he is alive, except for Vatienne who refuses to acknowledge the signs.

Edit Edit:

*smacks own face* Where are my manners? Attie, welcome to Emoria! Glad to have you.

[Attie]

Had an emergency last night, was very ill. I need to catch up on the last two pages.

Attie, go ahead and add your character sheet to Emoria: Information, and we will link it to the character sheet post.

Edit Edit:

*smacks own face* Where are my manners? Attie, welcome to Emoria! Glad to have you.

Seeing as how you had an emergency last night, I take absolutely not offense, Ryona! Thank you very much. -smiles- Though, I do hope you feel much better soon.

I will go ahead and add the character sheet as ordered.

[Gadreille]

Thank you. Your character sheet has been added.

Silvone is finally working on the species list. Dax, how is the pantheon coming? Anything I can help you with?

Also, we have two members (it is obvious which two that they are) who have not responded to our requests for posting character sheets in the information thread. I'm not sure what is going on with either of them, but we will just assume that they are still a part of this role play until further notice.

Regardless of whether the species list, pantheon, and overall map is completed, I feel that we should begin this role play when the last three members have created their character sheets. I know they are diligently working on it, and some have run into hitches that will take a while to overcome.

That said, perhaps discussion should lean toward how we are going to begin this role play. We know we are having continuous role plays seperated by events, and that these events may surround a political kidnapping as well as the general awareness that Morgorath (and his lovely bride) have returned (or at least, are becoming more active).

We need to be thinking about how we are going to split the members, how many events we are going to begin with, and the process of how we are going to keep other members updated. For this reason, we have not used the official Emoria OOC. I was thinking perhaps the Emoria OOC can be a weekly or monthly updated summary of each individual roleplay, while this thread can be more casual OOC, such as plotting ideas or just general mayhem.

[Guilty Carrion]

Sorry!

I'm doing what I can, but I need to finish ironing out the last few details of the Tynir's alliance with Morgarath with raptorman before I can finish up their history and what not. I just figured I'd throw up all of their stuff in one gigantic post instead of several scattered ones.

And then I can work on my character more diligently. So, here's hoping. Me and Shadow have slotted today for a workfest, so with any luck, you'll see our sheets.

[Guest]

Edit: Dax, I like I mix of two and four. Perhaps everyone thought that he was dead, but now sees that he is alive, except for Vatienne who refuses to acknowledge the signs.

I have no problems with this, though as I stated above. Those who lived within the mountains knew from the start that he was still around.

That said, perhaps discussion should lean toward how we are going to begin this role play. We know we are having continuous role plays seperated by events, and that these events may surround a political kidnapping as well as the general awareness that Morgorath (and his lovely bride) have returned (or at least, are becoming more active).

We need to be thinking about how we are going to split the members, how many events we are going to begin with, and the process of how we are going to keep other members updated. For this reason, we have not used the official Emoria OOC. I was thinking perhaps the Emoria OOC can be a weekly or monthly updated summary of each individual roleplay, while this thread can be more casual OOC, such as plotting ideas or just general mayhem.

Well I think the kidnapping thing could work pretty well. The only thing is, I think we should have a bit of intro time before that occurs. Just a few posts to showcase what life is like for our characters. Just to get a feel for them, before the first big event of the main plot takes off.

[Dax]

The plural form of "Quendë" is actually "Quendi"... Because "Quendi" directly translates to mean "elves," it seems a little redundant to state that they were elves immediately after... Perhaps you should write, "...the Quendi of Taurë Arda..." instead the first time, then simply proceed to write "Quendi" after that.

Alright, that shall be fixed, as will the other errors you mentioned. Thanks!

As for the plot, I was thinking exactly what Raptormann was.

As for my Pantheon, I am waiting on very character sheet to be put up. Otherwise, its going great.

[Gadreille]

Plaguewalker, I don't mean to put pressure on you, I just want everyone to know we aren't sitting here doing nothing, or waiting on a ghost or something

Raptorman, you are right, we definitely need intros. I figured that the intros would be the first few posts in whichever event role play you are assigned.

[Guest]

Plaguewalker, I don't mean to put pressure on you, I just want everyone to know we aren't sitting here doing nothing, or waiting on a ghost or something

Raptorman, you are right, we definitely need intros. I figured that the intros would be the first few posts in whichever event role play you are assigned.

If I may make a suggestion for the first few threads to be created, the area threads. Now people can switch from these 5 areas which I think at the moment are enough, when ever they move or need to.

1. Mountains of Night, there are three of us with the mountains as an important thing and there will likely be a lot of demand in there later.

2. Kathryn's Library. Also a very important and influencial site.

3. The Southern Continent area thread.

4. The west of the northern continent and the large island

5. The north and east of the northern continent.

[Kalon Ordona II]

Another way we could do it is have our "intro posts" go into our character sheet.

Or we could make snippets from our lives, memories or flashbacks, to really make our character bio sections come alive. xD Put them in spoilers, I guess. ^^

Cool idea, right? xD I might even do it.

[Gadreille]

Another way we could do it is have our "intro posts" go into our character sheet.

Or we could make snippets from our lives, memories or flashbacks, to really make our character bio sections come alive. xD Put them in spoilers, I guess. ^^

Cool idea, right? xD I might even do it.

I was actually thinking this, but the problem is it feels too seperated, inaccessible...It seems easier to tie everyone together if their intros are in the same location, so that they each get a feel for each other and figure out how to get their characters joined into one location if they are not already.

Of course, this is all debatable, and intro posts can go into character sheets regardless if we end up deciding to post them in actual role plays.

[Bird of Hermes]

If I may make a suggestion for the first few threads to be created, the area threads. Now people can switch from these 5 areas which I think at the moment are enough, when ever they move or need to.

1. Mountains of Night, there are three of us with the mountains as an important thing and there will likely be a lot of demand in there later.

2. Kathryn's Library. Also a very important and influential site.

3. The Southern Continent area thread.

4. The west of the northern continent and the large island

5. The north and east of the northern continent.

Perhaps we could add one for the Planes.

It all depends, of coarse, on where the plots take our characters.

Do we have any ideas for possible plots and what-not?

[Kalon Ordona II]

We could also have expanded histories that detail more and more about Planes and countries and such. Sort-of a continual thing.

[Gunneh]

I was thinking that Kalon, Dax and myself could start our thread off during the Festival of Light and Spirit on Irrihayne (forgive the lack of accent marks). From there, our characters could all travel to Taure Arda (Again, excuse my lack of the fanciness) and...I dunno.

[Guest]

Another way we could do it is have our "intro posts" go into our character sheet.

Or we could make snippets from our lives, memories or flashbacks, to really make our character bio sections come alive. xD Put them in spoilers, I guess. ^^

Cool idea, right? xD I might even do it.

I was actually thinking this, but the problem is it feels too seperated, inaccessible...It seems easier to tie everyone together if their intros are in the same location, so that they each get a feel for each other and figure out how to get their characters joined into one location if they are not already.

Of course, this is all debatable, and intro posts can go into character sheets regardless if we end up deciding to post them in actual role plays.

I think we should run this normally and let people start off with how they want to start their characters going. After all this is a whole world. The plot takes second fiddle to the will of those participating. We do not want to limit people.

[Guest]

I figure the easiest way to do it would to form a few smaller RPs (Silv's plan), that may or may not be geographically based. In addition to our reverse sigs, the following info should be added as text, since it is subject to change.

(Reverse sig)
Location
Date
Time

[Gadreille]

Time stamps would definitely be a plus. They will likely start of geographically based (how Raptorman split it above) and then possibly switch over to events. That is why I like to call them "chapters", like Kalon had stated, because it gives us more freedom of what we can do with them.

[Attie]

-blinks, reading all of the suggestions- I am so very lost. I think I'll just let you guys figure it out first, then explain what the decision means.

[Kalon Ordona II]

Yup, that's the plan. After it's all sorted out, there'll probably be a detailed explanation in both the Information thread and the actual main role-play (or its OOC)

[Guest]

Here are my thoughts on the starting plot:

There should only be one thread to start out with. In this thread, each character can make a detailed post, however long they want it to be, describing their journey from their homelands to the meeting place. The kidnapping would already have happened, and would be the catalyst for why our characters are important, why they were chosen, and where exactly they are going.

The reason I like this idea for the starting point is because it allows us, right away, to start detailing the world as we travel across it to reach our characters destination.

The reason I would like it all to be in one thread is because it provides a starting point from which we could branch off from. It can be decided in the meeting itself, the content of which may actually be discussed in the OOC to limit posting response time, where each character is going and with whom.

So, one the intro posts are out of the way, and the meeting posts are done with, we will each jump into our designated threads and begin the actual story.

As for the meeting, I think much of it should be discussed either in chat (which we might need a specific room for), or in the OOC. This would prevent us from stepping over each others voices and having it to degrade into another Council of Elrond (though that would be interesting, we just wouldn't get anywhere).
Once all the content for the meeting is decided, we could split it up into a few posts, or even one long one, that relates the information into the story itself and sets us off.

If everyone wants to participate in the meeting with their own individual posts, that is fine. But we will need a system for it. We just have too many people for a free for all, in my opinion. And if we did do it that way, I think it would need to be limited to very short posts filled with more dialogue than description.

Anyway...thoughts so far?

As for how the threads will be split:
First off they will be split by geography. Whatever happens, we will likely have groups headed to every corner of the lands, either for diplomatic missions, searching for legendary artifacts, battling armies of shadow, or whatever.

Once the story actually makes some progress and we have some solid events, we can focus the threads into individual events which can then be considered chapters.

At that point we will have the introduction thread up to the conclusion of the meeting, the travel threads focused on Geography and moving from one place to another, and event threads that focus on particular events happening in the world.

The event threads and the intro thread are the only threads that would ever be permanently closed (as the intro thread is basically an event). The geography threads would remain open because they would be in constant use as the groups travel across the world. No knew geography threads would open up until we open the new landmass, if we ever do.
New event threads, however, would pop up whenever we have the need for one.

Thats it. Thoughts?

[Guest]

Here are my thoughts on the starting plot:

There should only be one thread to start out with. In this thread, each character can make a detailed post, however long they want it to be, describing their journey from their homelands to the meeting place. The kidnapping would already have happened, and would be the catalyst for why our characters are important, why they were chosen, and where exactly they are going.

The reason I like this idea for the starting point is because it allows us, right away, to start detailing the world as we travel across it to reach our characters destination.

The reason I would like it all to be in one thread is because it provides a starting point from which we could branch off from. It can be decided in the meeting itself, the content of which may actually be discussed in the OOC to limit posting response time, where each character is going and with whom.

So, one the intro posts are out of the way, and the meeting posts are done with, we will each jump into our designated threads and begin the actual story.

As for the meeting, I think much of it should be discussed either in chat (which we might need a specific room for), or in the OOC. This would prevent us from stepping over each others voices and having it to degrade into another Council of Elrond (though that would be interesting, we just wouldn't get anywhere).
Once all the content for the meeting is decided, we could split it up into a few posts, or even one long one, that relates the information into the story itself and sets us off.

If everyone wants to participate in the meeting with their own individual posts, that is fine. But we will need a system for it. We just have too many people for a free for all, in my opinion. And if we did do it that way, I think it would need to be limited to very short posts filled with more dialogue than description.

Anyway...thoughts so far?

As for how the threads will be split:
First off they will be split by geography. Whatever happens, we will likely have groups headed to every corner of the lands, either for diplomatic missions, searching for legendary artifacts, battling armies of shadow, or whatever.

Once the story actually makes some progress and we have some solid events, we can focus the threads into individual events which can then be considered chapters.

At that point we will have the introduction thread up to the conclusion of the meeting, the travel threads focused on Geography and moving from one place to another, and event threads that focus on particular events happening in the world.

The event threads and the intro thread are the only threads that would ever be permanently closed (as the intro thread is basically an event). The geography threads would remain open because they would be in constant use as the groups travel across the world. No knew geography threads would open up until we open the new landmass, if we ever do.
New event threads, however, would pop up whenever we have the need for one.

Thats it. Thoughts?

Slight issue, and not really a big issue but one none the less. Morgarath will not be attending said meeting. One of my Npc ish characters will be. And there are a few of us who wouldn't be attending said meeting.

Also I would really prefer we didn't start with the meeting or at least that we had the opportunity for some opening stuff first.

[Bird of Hermes]

Thats it. Thoughts?

I absolutely love what you have suggested. It seems perfect. Of coarse, only time will tell if it works out that way.

Just one question: Who is getting kidnapped?

[Guest]

As far as my kingdom is concerned, the king is simply too powerful to simply disappeared. He rules his nation with an iron fist essentially, and the entire military does his every bidding. It would require very powerful magic to get him without someone noticing.

So I was thinking more along the lines of the grand master of the Guild of Hero's or something like that. It would be important enough to get the entire guild involved, and my character is involved in that. And since the Guild provides a major source of the kingdoms income, it would get the rest of the kingdom involved as well.

[Blackrock]

Just because things start with a meeting, doesn't mean that we won't have opening stuff. The motives for attending, the preparation and, lastly, the journey itself can be described in detail, if desired. This can come in the form of memories, a dialogue with a PC or NPC, or a journal. With the meeting already taking place in the intro posts, it will also mean we are on the same page (mostly), as in we won't have to wait until characters arrive from all over the continent.

Also, if we want to be detailed in date/time a scale for the map is pretty much a must, I reckon. We'll have to calculate traveling distances, time spent on the road and so forth.

[Guest]

Wait, so someone from Spire is getting kidnapped and that's the catalyst for all this? Why would a Spiran count for anything to the Aqualyts, Moonseye's jungle people, or even the Fermatans? Basically what I'm asking is, if someone from Spire gets kidnapped, why does everyone not allied with Spire care?

[Guest]

Because supposedly someone from every kingdom is to be kidnapped. Excepting those who have an understanding with Morgarath already. Correct me if I am wrong silvone

[Bird of Hermes]

Because supposedly someone from every kingdom is to be kidnapped.

If that is so, I need to come up with someone to be kidnapped that the Ionairus would wish to protect.

[Guest]

Yes, that was the plan. Someone from every country would be kidnapped, and the Spiran would only be the catalyst for my own kingdom. No one else would give a damn, but they will if someone important from their own lands is taken.

We still have to work out how exactly it is going to happen on, if that is the agreed method.

And I did mean for there to be posts before the actual meeting. The meeting will not take place until everyone has posted a sufficient introduction detailing who there character is, why they were chosen to attend the meeting, and how they get there. It can be a short post, or it can be a long post. It is really up to you. But that actual meeting won't happen until everyone who is attending is there.

And as for the meeting, I was thinking it would be easier to hammer out the dialogue and details in the OOC, and then combine it all in a post, or a few posts, to reduce the time the meeting would take. Otherwise it will take a very long time to get through it, since we would be waiting on everyone to post in turn.

Edit: I agree, we need a scale as well as average distances that can be traveled per day, per method of travel. Ryona and I will work on it, but if there are any suggestions please share.

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